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From: Karmayog.org One of the focus areas of the Anti Corruption Bureau, Maharashtra, is to "Exercise Effective Corruption Control". This can be done by ensuring that Government departments are made citizen friendly and their procedures are designed so as to minimize opportunities for corrupt practices. - which are the points of corruption there, why, and how should the procedure be changed
Other information is at www.karmayog.org/anticorruption/ ACB news are at www.karmayog.org/acbnews/ Let's not be sceptical about curtailing corruption. Corruption is caused due to gaps in procedures. That's it. It's that simple and straightforward. Laws which are fair, and implementation procedures which are well thought out. That's usually all what's needed.
Regards, Vinay Responses (1-20) : 1. It is valid for all the deptts
1- the public should not visit any govt official
2- they should send an e mail with copy to ne more responsible officer for infomation
3- reply should be mandatory in 7--15--30 days----
4- e mail can sent from pco--- etc etc-- or help desk in the deptt--- thay should charge rs 10/- for each e mail being sent to the deptt-- and keep a track of reply--- they may chrge rs 5/-per or ngo will take his work-- to stop corruption
5- all govt officers and their blood relations- and first cousins---in laws should inform their saving account no---- there worth as on date--in affidavit form.
6- all purchase above rs 5000/- hould be from bank dd drafts---available free of cost from banks-- name of the borrower -- mentioned on it
Aroon kumar New delhi 2. I must applaud the organisation for taking constructive steps for overall bettterment of the society.
In regards to enclosed Email in regards to pact with anti-corruption I am of the opinion that the war against it have to be fought at different levels and battlefield is Human Mind.
Corruption stems from Citizens requiring shortcuts to success.Every department that you have mentioned I believe that procedures are fair. Of course there is always room to simplify further but generally It is the citizens who are not law abiding and require favours from the powers to be.
We need to educate citizens first in do's and don'ts to stop corruption or should I say reduce it.
Vivek vpb.teekay@hathway.com
From: Noshir Dhabhar
a. First the principle of accountability in all offices should be introduced with time limited factors.
b. All applications if accompanied by proper attachments are there as required by the department must be cleared within a specified time frame.
c. Passing of papers after time frame should be explained by the concerned person.
From: Dayashree Enterprises Any amount of carrot and stick rules will not avoid corruprion at the lower levels of administration. For example from the regular postman to officials in octroi, sales tax, service tax ask for bribes unashamedly in the name of 'chai-pani' expenses. This is what hurting the common man from dealing with the govt. offices.They can not refuse if bribe is demanded fearing the repurcussions that cause more harm to them than throwing away a few rupees as they give alms to beggars and getting onwith their work.They have no respect for these officials nor do the officials care! I suggest that first the law should be amended as ' only the bribe taker is punishable and not the bribe giver'. this would make the bribe givers to come out boldly in lodging a complaint when bribes are demanded.The bribe seaker will be scared to demand. Secondly the bribe seekers are to be branded as 'BEGGARS' and in all govt. offices and public places a notice board/placards shoud be displayed ' BRIBE SEEKERS ARE BEGGARS. DO NOT ENCOURAGE THEM. REPORT THEM TO THE DESIGNATED OFFICE. YOU ARE SAFE FROM PROSECUTION.' At least such a derogatory announcement should dissuade the corrupt from demanding - if they care for any self respect. Vijayan [This is one line of thought but which is difficult to implement. And anyway, the bribe takers do not care for self-respect. We want to probe how procedures can be improved. Thanks. Vinay] 5. Dear Vinay Given the History and Nature of Government in our country, THERE WILL ALWAYS BE CORRUPTION & THE TEMPTATION TO MISUSE POWERS. I believe that the ONLY WAY to curb these in every instance will be through ensuring as much TRANSPARENCY and therefore OPEN ACCOUNTABILITY as possible i.e. BY MAKING IT easy for the lay citizen to easily see what his rights are and as easily RECORD & REPORT perceived NON-PERFORMANCE, CORRUPTION or MISUSE of POWERS. Here TECHNOLOGY holds the only answer for this. Therefore every citizens’ body should relentlessly insist on nothing short of COMPREHENSIVE E-GOVERNANCE with INTERACTIVE WEBSITES being applied to every aspect of the working of every single major public authority or service. Vijay
From: Poodipedi Devi Corruption thrives when the top managament is either corrupt or inefficient so one can start at the top. Prof P Suvarna Devi [That is the exact myth that needs to be dispelled. I would find it hard to swallow that Kalam, Manmohan Singh or Chidambaram are either corrupt or inefficient. The problem is that in most government departments, the bureaucrat at the top is a good, relatively honest, competent, sincere IAS officer. But because he/she is there for only 2-3 years, they don't know a) how the system of that department works and by the time they understand it, it's time for them to leave, b) they don't know whom they can trust (internally or externally) i.e. who has what hidden agenda, so they don't know where to look for support, c) they can't see or pull up people at levels which are beyond 2 below them in the heirarchy, d) they do not have budgets to employ professional consultants or service providers to analyse the gaps and implement new systems, e) they do not have competent or willing juniors because those are some combination of corrupt or lazy (due to guaranteed employment), f) they can't easily figure out where all the internal systems are broken because they themselves do not have to deal with their departments as an outsider does e.g. unless enough people complain to them that so and so person or department is holding up work, they will not know easily know about it, etc. etc. So the first valuable step would be if you would sit down and make a list of all the places where your ex-medical college creates problems due to improper policies and procedures, we can move forward. Vinay]
From: Sivaram [So when you go to get your Shop and Est. licence, please make a note of all the places where you were asked for a bribe and please also give suggestions how that could have been avoided by better procedures, e.g. display of procedures on a notice board, downloading and uploading of forms, etc. etc. Thanks, Vinay]
[Good theory. But how to specifically do that. If, for instance, you could
From: V Sarangapani
[Good points. Mr. Mhatre of TCS 9820505357 / 56240194 is in charge of doing all this and more at BMC. They have a Rs. 100 crore budget. It would be interesting and useful if you could find out informally from him and his team about their experiences and learnings, and the attitudes of BMC staff at all levels as TCS is going about implementing this. Also why BMC is not involving citizen bodies in the development of the citizen's portal. Which stakeholders are contributing to the specifications? Are those really adequately representative and knowledgeable and without vested interests? If you could share that with us in a generic way, it would be of great help to all. Thanks. Vinay]
From: Rachit Visaria I would suggest to take strict action when you catch some person while taking bribes.and I don’t know where to go if I see people taking bribe whom should we complain so may be we should make a special cell for the same whom people can complain about corrupt government employee. I have number people’s list who are from different government bodies, I can help you by giving their identity.these men are from police station,gov. hospitals, railways etc whom I myself gave money to do my work. For catching more people you can send your men and ask them to give bribe and catch the employee taking bribe red handed .i can help you in these matter, I have different plan. so pls revert to me if you need my help. Rachit Visaria [Oh, very very strict action is possible. Please see the links that were there in the mail or see the ACB website at www.acbmaharashtra.org . We do need your help. Please contact Mr. Tupe at ACB by phone to take the matter forward and keep me informed about how it goes. Anti Corruption Bureau, Maharashtra, Madhu Industrial Estate, 1st Floor, Pandurang Budhkar Marg, Worli, Mumbai 400 013. Tel: 24921212, 24922618, Fax: 2492776. Email: acbwebmail@... Website: http://www.acbmaharashtra.org/ Toll-free phone line 1-800-222021. Regards. Vinay. http://www.karmayog.org/ ]
On the issue of RTO & Registration, thought i should share couple of my observations [Thanks. Will try. One, of course, has to wonder why the powerful and vocal WIAA does not agree with you. Vinay]
From: ~rAjOo~ To: Karmayog.org Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 2:04 PM Subject: Re: Pl suggest systemic changes in Govt. procedures to reduce Corruption My input is that ACB also cover semi-central government organizations, especially in Bombay, prime examples of which are Export Promotion Council, most of these are very badly managed, bogged down by corruption, favoritism and nepotism. The other area are the city colleges, eg. Jai Hind College, Hinduja College, etc. where Principals themselves are directly involved in taking bribes, even from needy students. gunwanti@hotmail.com [ Thanks. 1. Semi-central govt orgs must be coming under some anti-corruption body e.g. CBI. I can find out if useful for you. 2. Pl advise some specific (but generic) instances where all EPC extracts money from exporters. 3. The accusation against principals of city colleges is severe. Do you know any students or ex-students who will come forward to vouch for this via their own experiences?
As you said - “Corruption is caused due to gaps in procedures. That's it. It's that simple and straightforward. Laws which are fair, and implementation procedures which are well thought out. That's usually all what's needed” Without undermining sanctity of your wisdom and with due regard, I want to say that gaps in the procedures merely allow ‘corruption’ to creep in. it’s the superstructure superimposed over the structural mechanism (law, rules, procedures etc. etc.) is the root cause. Even , if we , plug in all the gaps , the superstructure will generate pressure on this structural mechanism (law, rules, procedures etc. etc.) and re-module it as per its very own volition. So , Its time to think about the superstructure? Devendra Sharma Managing Partner Grand Indus Jurix [Yes, I agree. Policies, laws are indeed the starting points. But I wouldn't expect people to respond to policy-level inputs via such an emailing, so I thought that at least start with procedures because that is an area where each of us can contribute to an improvement. It only means taking the effort to type. Moreover, the common man is most affected by corruption at the level of procedures and not at the level of law or policy. If, however, you can suggest something (reg. law or procedure) in the case of courts, judiciary, etc., it will be useful to get that so as to start a discussion.
One way of minimizing corruption is to reduce the areas where government employees are allowed to exercise their discretion.
One example is in Property Taxes. TMC has decided to raise the property tax rate from Rs 4 per sq ft to Rs 7 per sq ft. TMC staff approached us saying they would assess us at Rs 4 per sq ft if we were prepared to pay them half of what we save. Since we refused to do so, we were charged Rs 7 per sq ft. However, we know for a fact that all our neigbours are paying Rs 4 per sq ft. I am proposing to file an RTI application to establish this before challenging the higher rate in court. If such discretionary powers were not given to the TMC staff, such a situation would not occur. Arun Diaz Mumbai 400 026 Tel: +9122 2351 1882 [I think it is better if we can find a solution which somehow includes discretionary powers e.g. along with a grievance redressal system. Human nature is such that we don't mind paying the substantial higher fare of a taxi (and even more so that of a pre-paid one) but if an auto-rickshaw charges more, our blood boils. BUT it is not logical. Please suggest some creative way. 'Discretion' doesn't not mean 'illogical' or 'irrational' or 'without any need of a reason' or even 'unreasonable'. Of course, you should file your RTI application. Maybe that will be the solution or indicate one. ' It again boils down to proper policy and procedures.Regards, Vinay]
You must think of including corruption in tender process adopted by various government departments. Except few, others are not following guidelines set by Central Vigilance Commission. Other aspect is setting of Pre Qualification Criteria influenced by Corporate groups. Some governments have adopted another route of favouring by involving institutions like IDFC, ILFC, PDCOR to work in influence of corporate giants or capitalists. We as organisation working for Urban Development have been raising such issues through media and other forums. Another good area to fight corruption is land allotments by Government bodies to their favourites. CDC fought the battle of one such illegal allotment through National Electronic media (Case: Deen Dayal Trust) and got success. Look forward to more discussion on these issues. Dr Vivek S Agrawal [ Thank you very much. 1. What are the CVC tendering guidelines? Any URL? 2. How can setting of pre-qualification criteria be improved? 3. Why should IDFC, etc. (I don't understand the acronyms) not be involved? 4. What issues have you raised reg. Urban Devp? If you can send a detailed systematic list, we could take it forward. 5. Do you have a ready list of examples where land has been alloted wrongly, along with names of recipients? 6. Pl send some relevant URL for the Deen Dayal Trust case to add in http://www.karmayog.org/ .Regards, Vinay]
1. I was most impressed by the attached article by Arun Firodia in TOI of 28 Feb 2007. It highlights irregularities in the Public Distribution System (PDS), and shows how the major sources of corruption (middle-men and retailers), can be bypassed by the simple method of issuing Entitlement-stamps of the required value, directly to members of the deprived classes, instead of depending on the system of ‘subsidies’ which seldom reach the target groups, because it is manipulated and exploited by corrupt agents. 2. The same system of Stamps of required monetary value, can be issued to parents of primary school-going children, so that they may choose a private school instead of below-standard govt. schools (where teachers are incompetent and are absent most of the time), by supplementing the higher fees of the former, with the stamps issued to them.
[Thanks. 1. Let's see what the Rationing Kruti Samiti has to say. Regards, Vinay]
[ Aha, the "Ram Teri Ganga Maili" phenomenon!?
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